What is Classical is healthy; what is Romantic is sick
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| - | "What is [[Classical]] is [[health]]y; what is [[Romantic]] is [[sick]]." --[[Goethe]]. | + | "'''What is Classical is healthy; what is Romantic is sick'''" (German: "Klassische nenne ich das Gesunde und das Romantische das Kranke") is a dictum by [[Goethe]] first mentioned in a letter to [[Johann Peter Eckermann]] of April 2, 1829. |
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| + | == Antipathy between Classics and Romantics == | ||
| :"In fact the antipathy between [[Classics]] and [[Romantics]] (exemplified by [[Ingres]] and [[Delacroix]], for example) was unknown before the 19th century, and it was only in the mid-19th century, at a time when the antique revival style was out of fashion, that the word ‘Neoclassicism’ was coined—originally a pejorative term with suggestions of lifelessness and impersonality. --[[The Oxford Dictionary of Art]] | :"In fact the antipathy between [[Classics]] and [[Romantics]] (exemplified by [[Ingres]] and [[Delacroix]], for example) was unknown before the 19th century, and it was only in the mid-19th century, at a time when the antique revival style was out of fashion, that the word ‘Neoclassicism’ was coined—originally a pejorative term with suggestions of lifelessness and impersonality. --[[The Oxford Dictionary of Art]] | ||
| + | ==French translation by Sainte-Beuve[http://archive.org/stream/causeriesdulund27saingoog#page/n45/mode/1up] == | ||
| + | :"J'appelle le classique ''le sain'', et le romantique ''le malade''. Pour moi le poème des ''Niebelungen'' est classique comme Homère ; tous deux sont bien portants et vigoureux. Les ouvrages du jour ne sont pas romantiques parce qu'ils sont nouveaux, mais parce qu'ils sont faibles, maladifs ou malades. Les ouvrages anciens ne sont pas classiques parce qu'ils sont vieux, mais parce qu'ils sont énergiques, frais et dispos. Si nous considérions le romantique et le classique sous ces deux points de vue, nous serions bientôt tous d'accord." | ||
| + | ::--[[Qu'est-ce qu'un classique?]] | ||
| + | ==Fuller quotation from the Goethe letter== | ||
| + | :"Das Klassische nenne ich das Gesunde, und das Romantische das Kranke. Und da sind die [[Nibelungen]] klassisch wie der [[Homer]], denn beide sind gesund und tüchtig. Das meiste Neuere ist nicht romantisch, weil es neu, sondern weil es schwach, kränklich und krank ist, und das Alte ist nicht klassisch, weil es alt, sondern weil es stark, frisch, froh und gesund ist. Wenn wir nach solchen Qualitäten Klassisches und Romantisches unterscheiden, so werden wir bald im reinen sein." | ||
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| ==See also== | ==See also== | ||
| + | *[[Quarrel of the Ancients and the Moderns]] | ||
| *[[Neoclassicism]] | *[[Neoclassicism]] | ||
| + | *[[Romantic theory]] | ||
| + | *"[[The only way for us to become great lies in the imitation of the Greeks]]" --[[Winckelmann]] | ||
| + | *[[Gespräche mit Goethe in den letzten Jahren seines Lebens]] | ||
| + | *[[Classical]] | ||
| + | *[[Health]] | ||
| + | *[[Romanticism]] | ||
| + | *[[Sick]] | ||
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"What is Classical is healthy; what is Romantic is sick" (German: "Klassische nenne ich das Gesunde und das Romantische das Kranke") is a dictum by Goethe first mentioned in a letter to Johann Peter Eckermann of April 2, 1829.
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Antipathy between Classics and Romantics
- "In fact the antipathy between Classics and Romantics (exemplified by Ingres and Delacroix, for example) was unknown before the 19th century, and it was only in the mid-19th century, at a time when the antique revival style was out of fashion, that the word ‘Neoclassicism’ was coined—originally a pejorative term with suggestions of lifelessness and impersonality. --The Oxford Dictionary of Art
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French translation by Sainte-Beuve[1]
- "J'appelle le classique le sain, et le romantique le malade. Pour moi le poème des Niebelungen est classique comme Homère ; tous deux sont bien portants et vigoureux. Les ouvrages du jour ne sont pas romantiques parce qu'ils sont nouveaux, mais parce qu'ils sont faibles, maladifs ou malades. Les ouvrages anciens ne sont pas classiques parce qu'ils sont vieux, mais parce qu'ils sont énergiques, frais et dispos. Si nous considérions le romantique et le classique sous ces deux points de vue, nous serions bientôt tous d'accord."
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Fuller quotation from the Goethe letter
- "Das Klassische nenne ich das Gesunde, und das Romantische das Kranke. Und da sind die Nibelungen klassisch wie der Homer, denn beide sind gesund und tüchtig. Das meiste Neuere ist nicht romantisch, weil es neu, sondern weil es schwach, kränklich und krank ist, und das Alte ist nicht klassisch, weil es alt, sondern weil es stark, frisch, froh und gesund ist. Wenn wir nach solchen Qualitäten Klassisches und Romantisches unterscheiden, so werden wir bald im reinen sein."
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See also
- Quarrel of the Ancients and the Moderns
- Neoclassicism
- Romantic theory
- "The only way for us to become great lies in the imitation of the Greeks" --Winckelmann
- Gespräche mit Goethe in den letzten Jahren seines Lebens
- Classical
- Health
- Romanticism
- Sick
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