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 +"The [[Beat Generation|Bohemianism of the 1950s]] is [...] hostile to [[civilization]]; it worships [[primitivism]], [[instinct]], energy, "blood." To the extent that it has intellectual interests at all, they run to mystical doctrines, [[irrationalist]] philosophies, and [[left-wing]] [[Wilhelm Reich|Reich]]ianism. The only art the new Bohemians have any use for is [[jazz]], mainly of the [[cool jazz|cool]] variety. Their predilection for bop language is a way of demonstrating solidarity with the primitive vitality and spontaneity they find in jazz and of expressing contempt for [[coherent]], rational discourse which, being a product of the mind, is in their view a form of death."--"[[The Know-Nothing Bohemians]]" (1958) by Norman Podhoretz
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 +"The [[novel]] is not an imaginary situation of imaginary truths&mdash;it is an expression of what one feels. [[Podhoretz]] doesn't write prose, he doesn't know how to write prose, and he isn't interested in the technical problems of prose or poetry. His criticism of Jack's spontaneous bop prosody shows that he can't tell the difference between words as rhythm and words as in diction ... The bit about anti-intellectualism is a piece of vanity, we had the same education, went to the same school, you know there are 'Intellectuals' and there are intellectuals. Podhoretz is just out of touch with [[twentieth-century literature]], he's writing for the [[eighteenth-century]] mind. We have a personal literature now&mdash;[[Marcel Proust|Proust]], [[Thomas Wolfe|Wolfe]], [[William Faulkner|Faulkner]], [[James Joyce|Joyce]]. The trouble is Podhoretz has a great ridiculous fat-bellied mind which he pats too often."--[[Allen Ginsberg]], responding to "[[The Know-Nothing Bohemians]]" (1958) by Norman Podhoretz in an October 1958 interview with ''[[The Village Voice]]'', collected in ''[[Spontaneous Mind]]''
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 +"Allen Ginsberg's little volume of poems, ''[[Howl]]'', which got the San Francisco renaissance off to a screaming start, was dedicated to Jack Kerouac ("new Buddha of American prose, who spit forth intelligence in to eleven books written in half the number of years .... Creating a spontaneous bop prosody and original classic literature"), William Seward Burroughs ("author of ''[[Naked Lunch]]'', an endless novel which will drive everybody mad"), and Neal Cassady ("author of ''[[The First Third]]'', an autobiography .. . which enlightened Buddha"). So far, everybody's sanity has been spared by the inability of ''[[Naked Lunch]]'' to find a publisher, and we may never get the chance to discover what Buddha learned from Neal Cassady's autobiography, but thanks to the Viking and Grove Presses, two of Kerouac's original classics, ''[[On the Road]]'' and ''[[The Subterraneans]]'', have now been revealed to the world."
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"[[The Know-Nothing Bohemians]]" (1958) is a text by [[Norman Podhoretz]] published in ''[[Partisan Review]]''. "[[The Know-Nothing Bohemians]]" (1958) is a text by [[Norman Podhoretz]] published in ''[[Partisan Review]]''.
 +The text was critical of [[the Beats]] and an attack on The Beats largely based on Kerouac's first two published books, ''[[On the Road]]'' and ''[[The Subterraneans]],'' as well as, to a lesser extent, Ginsberg's ''[[Howl]]''. The essay also reacts to an unidentified [[Norman Mailer]] piece (possibly "[[The White Negro]]").
- +Podhoretz was a fellow student at Columbia who knew Ginsberg and Kerouac (some of his poetry was published by Ginsberg before their falling-out).
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-One prominent critic of the Beats was +
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-, a fellow student at Columbia who knew Ginsberg and Kerouac (some of his poetry was published by Ginsberg before their falling-out). In 1958, ''Partisan Review'' published his article +
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-an attack on The Beats largely based on Kerouac's first two published books, ''On the Road'' and ''The Subterraneans,'' as well as, to a lesser extent, Ginsberg's ''Howl''. The essay also reacts to an unidentified [[Norman Mailer]] piece (possibly "[[The White Negro]]").+
The main thrust of his attack is that the Beat embrace of spontaneity is bound up in an anti-intellectual worship of the primitive directly opposed to civilization and can easily turn toward mindless violence. The main thrust of his attack is that the Beat embrace of spontaneity is bound up in an anti-intellectual worship of the primitive directly opposed to civilization and can easily turn toward mindless violence.
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<blockquote>I happen to believe that there is a direct connection between the flabbiness of American middle-class life and the spread of juvenile crime in the 1950s, but I also believe that the juvenile crime can be explained partly in terms of the same resentment against normal feeling and the attempt to cope with the world through intelligence that lies behind Kerouac and Ginsberg. Even the relatively mild ethos of Kerouac's books can spill over easily into brutality, for there is a suppressed cry in those books: Kill the intellectuals who can talk coherently, kill the people who can sit still for five minutes at a time, kill those incomprehensible characters who are capable of getting seriously involved with a woman, a job, a cause.</blockquote> <blockquote>I happen to believe that there is a direct connection between the flabbiness of American middle-class life and the spread of juvenile crime in the 1950s, but I also believe that the juvenile crime can be explained partly in terms of the same resentment against normal feeling and the attempt to cope with the world through intelligence that lies behind Kerouac and Ginsberg. Even the relatively mild ethos of Kerouac's books can spill over easily into brutality, for there is a suppressed cry in those books: Kill the intellectuals who can talk coherently, kill the people who can sit still for five minutes at a time, kill those incomprehensible characters who are capable of getting seriously involved with a woman, a job, a cause.</blockquote>
-Podhoretz echoes the then-current characterization of delinquents as "rebels without a cause.":+Podhoretz echoes the then-current characterization of delinquents as "[[rebels without a cause]].":
<blockquote>The hipsters and hipster lovers of the Beat Generation are rebels, all right, but not against anything so sociological and historical as the middle class or capitalism or even respectability. This is the revolt of the spiritually underprivileged and the crippled of soul&mdash;young men who can't think straight and so hate anyone who can; [...]<br /> <blockquote>The hipsters and hipster lovers of the Beat Generation are rebels, all right, but not against anything so sociological and historical as the middle class or capitalism or even respectability. This is the revolt of the spiritually underprivileged and the crippled of soul&mdash;young men who can't think straight and so hate anyone who can; [...]<br />
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<blockquote>[...] Kerouac's love for Negroes and other dark-skinned groups is tied up with his worship of primitivism, not with any radical social attitudes. Ironically enough, in fact, to see the Negro as more elemental than the white man, as [[Ned Polsky]] has acutely remarked, is "an inverted form of keeping the nigger in his place."</blockquote> <blockquote>[...] Kerouac's love for Negroes and other dark-skinned groups is tied up with his worship of primitivism, not with any radical social attitudes. Ironically enough, in fact, to see the Negro as more elemental than the white man, as [[Ned Polsky]] has acutely remarked, is "an inverted form of keeping the nigger in his place."</blockquote>
-Ginsberg responded in a 1958 interview with ''[[The Village Voice]]'' (collected in ''Spontaneous Mind''), specifically addressing the charge that the Beats destroyed "the distinction between life and literature.":+Ginsberg responded in a 1958 interview with ''[[The Village Voice]]'' (collected in ''[[Spontaneous Mind]]''), specifically addressing the charge that the Beats destroyed "the distinction between [[life and literature]].":
-<blockquote>The novel is not an imaginary situation of imaginary truths&mdash;it is an expression of what one feels. Podhoretz doesn't write prose, he doesn't know how to write prose, and he isn't interested in the technical problems of prose or poetry. His criticism of Jack's spontaneous bop prosody shows that he can't tell the difference between words as rhythm and words as in diction ... The bit about anti-intellectualism is a piece of vanity, we had the same education, went to the same school, you know there are 'Intellectuals' and there are intellectuals. Podhoretz is just out of touch with twentieth-century literature, he's writing for the eighteenth-century mind. We have a personal literature now&mdash;[[Marcel Proust|Proust]], [[Thomas Wolfe|Wolfe]], [[William Faulkner|Faulkner]], [[James Joyce|Joyce]].+<blockquote>The [[novel]] is not an imaginary situation of imaginary truths&mdash;it is an expression of what one feels. [[Podhoretz]] doesn't write prose, he doesn't know how to write prose, and he isn't interested in the technical problems of prose or poetry. His criticism of Jack's spontaneous bop prosody shows that he can't tell the difference between words as rhythm and words as in diction ... The bit about anti-intellectualism is a piece of vanity, we had the same education, went to the same school, you know there are 'Intellectuals' and there are intellectuals. Podhoretz is just out of touch with [[twentieth-century literature]], he's writing for the [[eighteenth-century]] mind. We have a personal literature now&mdash;[[Marcel Proust|Proust]], [[Thomas Wolfe|Wolfe]], [[William Faulkner|Faulkner]], [[James Joyce|Joyce]].
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-===Internal criticism=== 
-Gary Snyder in a 1974 interview, comments on the subject of "casualties" of the Beat Generation: 
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-<blockquote>Kerouac was a casualty too. And there were many other casualties that most people have never heard of, but were genuine casualties. Just as, in the 60s, when Allen and I for a period there were almost publicly recommending people to take acid. When I look back on that now I realize there were many casualties, responsibilities to bear.</blockquote> 
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-===Other critics=== 
-[[Bruce Conner]] stated: "I don’t know any artist that would call himself a beat artist... If somebody did, you’d consider him a fake, a fraud running a scam." 
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-==The Beats comment on the Beat Generation== 
-: "The so-called Beat Generation was a whole bunch of people, of all different nationalities, who came to the conclusion that society sucked." 
-::- [[Amiri Baraka]] 
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-:"John Clellon Holmes... and I were sitting around trying to think up the meaning of the Lost Generation and the subsequent existentialism and I said 'You know John, this is really a beat generation'; and he leapt up and said, 'That's it, that's right!'" 
-::- [[Jack Kerouac]] 
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-:"But yet, but yet, woe, woe unto those who think that the Beat Generation means crime, delinquency, immorality, amorality ... woe unto those who attack it on the grounds that they simply don’t understand history and the yearning of human souls ... woe in fact unto those who make evil movies about the Beat Generation where innocent housewives are raped by beatniks! ... woe unto those who spit on the Beat Generation, the wind’ll blow it back." 
-::- [[Jack Kerouac]] 
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-:"Three writers does not a generation make." 
-::- [[Gregory Corso]] (sometimes also attributed to [[Gary Snyder]]). 
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-:"Nobody knows whether we were catalysts or invented something, or just the froth riding on a wave of its own. We were all three, I suppose." 
-::- [[Allen Ginsberg]] 
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==See also== ==See also==
-*[[Greenwich Village]]+*''[[On Bohemia: The Code of the Self-Exiled]]''
-*[[Literary Kicks]]+
-*[[San Francisco Oracle]]+
-*[[Beat Scene]]+
-*[[Postbeat Poets]]+
-*[[Beatdom]]+
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"The Bohemianism of the 1950s is [...] hostile to civilization; it worships primitivism, instinct, energy, "blood." To the extent that it has intellectual interests at all, they run to mystical doctrines, irrationalist philosophies, and left-wing Reichianism. The only art the new Bohemians have any use for is jazz, mainly of the cool variety. Their predilection for bop language is a way of demonstrating solidarity with the primitive vitality and spontaneity they find in jazz and of expressing contempt for coherent, rational discourse which, being a product of the mind, is in their view a form of death."--"The Know-Nothing Bohemians" (1958) by Norman Podhoretz


"The novel is not an imaginary situation of imaginary truths—it is an expression of what one feels. Podhoretz doesn't write prose, he doesn't know how to write prose, and he isn't interested in the technical problems of prose or poetry. His criticism of Jack's spontaneous bop prosody shows that he can't tell the difference between words as rhythm and words as in diction ... The bit about anti-intellectualism is a piece of vanity, we had the same education, went to the same school, you know there are 'Intellectuals' and there are intellectuals. Podhoretz is just out of touch with twentieth-century literature, he's writing for the eighteenth-century mind. We have a personal literature now—Proust, Wolfe, Faulkner, Joyce. The trouble is Podhoretz has a great ridiculous fat-bellied mind which he pats too often."--Allen Ginsberg, responding to "The Know-Nothing Bohemians" (1958) by Norman Podhoretz in an October 1958 interview with The Village Voice, collected in Spontaneous Mind


"Allen Ginsberg's little volume of poems, Howl, which got the San Francisco renaissance off to a screaming start, was dedicated to Jack Kerouac ("new Buddha of American prose, who spit forth intelligence in to eleven books written in half the number of years .... Creating a spontaneous bop prosody and original classic literature"), William Seward Burroughs ("author of Naked Lunch, an endless novel which will drive everybody mad"), and Neal Cassady ("author of The First Third, an autobiography .. . which enlightened Buddha"). So far, everybody's sanity has been spared by the inability of Naked Lunch to find a publisher, and we may never get the chance to discover what Buddha learned from Neal Cassady's autobiography, but thanks to the Viking and Grove Presses, two of Kerouac's original classics, On the Road and The Subterraneans, have now been revealed to the world."

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"The Know-Nothing Bohemians" (1958) is a text by Norman Podhoretz published in Partisan Review.

The text was critical of the Beats and an attack on The Beats largely based on Kerouac's first two published books, On the Road and The Subterraneans, as well as, to a lesser extent, Ginsberg's Howl. The essay also reacts to an unidentified Norman Mailer piece (possibly "The White Negro").

Podhoretz was a fellow student at Columbia who knew Ginsberg and Kerouac (some of his poetry was published by Ginsberg before their falling-out).

The main thrust of his attack is that the Beat embrace of spontaneity is bound up in an anti-intellectual worship of the primitive directly opposed to civilization and can easily turn toward mindless violence.

Podhoretz asserted that there was a link between the beats and the delinquents:

I happen to believe that there is a direct connection between the flabbiness of American middle-class life and the spread of juvenile crime in the 1950s, but I also believe that the juvenile crime can be explained partly in terms of the same resentment against normal feeling and the attempt to cope with the world through intelligence that lies behind Kerouac and Ginsberg. Even the relatively mild ethos of Kerouac's books can spill over easily into brutality, for there is a suppressed cry in those books: Kill the intellectuals who can talk coherently, kill the people who can sit still for five minutes at a time, kill those incomprehensible characters who are capable of getting seriously involved with a woman, a job, a cause.

Podhoretz echoes the then-current characterization of delinquents as "rebels without a cause.":

The hipsters and hipster lovers of the Beat Generation are rebels, all right, but not against anything so sociological and historical as the middle class or capitalism or even respectability. This is the revolt of the spiritually underprivileged and the crippled of soul—young men who can't think straight and so hate anyone who can; [...]

The Bohemianism of the 1950s is [...] hostile to civilization; it worships primitivism, instinct, energy, "blood." To the extent that it has intellectual interests at all, they run to mystical doctrines, irrationalist philosophies, and left-wing Reichianism. The only art the new Bohemians have any use for is jazz, mainly of the cool variety. Their predilection for bop language is a way of demonstrating solidarity with the primitive vitality and spontaneity they find in jazz and of expressing contempt for coherent, rational discourse which, being a product of the mind, is in their view a form of death.

According to Podhoretz, Kerouac's anti-intellectualism was shown by his impoverished vocabulary:

Kerouac, however, manages to remain true to the spirit of hipster slang while making forays into enemy territory (i.e., the English language) by his simple inability to express anything in words. The only method he has of describing an object is to summon up the same half-dozen adjectives over and over again: "greatest," "tremendous," "crazy," "mad," "wild," and perhaps one or two others. When it's more than just mad or crazy or wild, it becomes "really mad" or "really crazy" or "really wild." (All quantities in excess of three, incidentally, are subsumed under the rubric "innumerable," a word used innumerable times in On the Road but not so innumerably in The Subterraneans.)

Podhoretz also criticizes Kerouac's racial attitudes:

[...] Kerouac's love for Negroes and other dark-skinned groups is tied up with his worship of primitivism, not with any radical social attitudes. Ironically enough, in fact, to see the Negro as more elemental than the white man, as Ned Polsky has acutely remarked, is "an inverted form of keeping the nigger in his place."

Ginsberg responded in a 1958 interview with The Village Voice (collected in Spontaneous Mind), specifically addressing the charge that the Beats destroyed "the distinction between life and literature.":

The novel is not an imaginary situation of imaginary truths—it is an expression of what one feels. Podhoretz doesn't write prose, he doesn't know how to write prose, and he isn't interested in the technical problems of prose or poetry. His criticism of Jack's spontaneous bop prosody shows that he can't tell the difference between words as rhythm and words as in diction ... The bit about anti-intellectualism is a piece of vanity, we had the same education, went to the same school, you know there are 'Intellectuals' and there are intellectuals. Podhoretz is just out of touch with twentieth-century literature, he's writing for the eighteenth-century mind. We have a personal literature now—Proust, Wolfe, Faulkner, Joyce.

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